Sex and gender both matter—not one more than the other. Both.
The gender supremacist movement for trans people—say gender not sex—has for 20 years over-used gender / gender identity to the point where other people are feeling their own physical sex-related identities swamped—not just LGB but also many in the general population. Many LGB people feel what it means to be themselves is morphed, my own transsexual narrative is virtually gone. We should have a right to being ourselves in society.
But is the LGB biologic sex movement trying also include T sex issues—or to do much the same wrong thing as gender supremacy only the other way around, sex supremacy, pushing a physical sex agenda, where, because physical sex can’t be changed, trans people should stick to biological sex references and spaces?
To be sure, where one view can be believed, so can the other—and we should be able to coexist just as conflicting religions do. But what is the goal best for society?
Both sex and gender issues should be respected and included in society. Both are part of people, both worthy, and people sometimes identify primarily with one or the other, sex identity or gender identity. It’s wrong to deny one or the other, wrong to push one or the other as supreme.
At first glance, the LGB-not-T movement seems to make sense. Places like the LGB Alliance, in England, or supporters, Maya Forstater’s Appeal, describing their mission as asserting the right of lesbians, bisexuals and gay men to define themselves as same-sex attracted, “that sex is immutable and not to be conflated with gender identity,” and state this right is threatened by attempts to introduce confusion between biological sex and the notion of gender. We’ll see how it plays out.
So far, many people of this stance say their identity—what it means to them to be gay, lesbian or bi—is lost when gender is used, sex is given the back seat or kicked completely out of the car.
An MtF transgender woman attracted to females says she’s lesbian, even though she retains and wants to retain her male genitalia and sexuality…so the movement says the sex occurring is not really lesbian.
Part of this is because people just aren’t getting that transgenderism, itself, makes it clear sex and gender are two different things:
EXAMPLE: If an MtF can change gender, but not want to change sex, can be attracted to women / females, then it would seem she may be homogenderal yet heterosexual.
I think people are lumping sex and gender together with confusion and conflict resulting. It works for “muggles,” non-trans, to think for themselves that sex and gender are conflated, correlated. They usually are seen that way. But in trans people, they correlation is usually inverse.
We have got to start accepting people, and we need clear terms so we can define, identify, and discuss.
In talking with the LGB-not-T movement, or supporters, it becomes clear to me that when they argue for biological sex clarity, they also mean for gender to take the back seat, they don’t just mean so that sex orientation is protected. They seem to mean that the idea of physical sex—being binary male or female—must be protected, and that the basic concept of being born of one sex yet identifying with the other sex or gender is false.
I think that is to relegate or erase trans-ism, to not have to contend with it, a form of transphobia.
It is true that there is wide individual variation in ideations, goals, and sexualities, but it is also true that there are genuinely people who are born of a clear biological sex who need with all their being to be the other physical sex or other gender. It happens. It’s real. It’s part of life.
Hopefully something good may come out of people standing up in some way for sex to be brought out of the rear vestibule—because gender is too painfully supremacist and people like me are considered offensive unless we agree to be about gender, too—but this stage of the shift bothers me.
But I want to clarify: What I do in life is NOT what the LGB-not-T movement is doing. I talk with them. I shouldn’t shun them any more than they should shun me. We need to demonstrate getting along with diversity, even diversity of thought. And I advocate for sex and gender equality, both as worthy.
People of different religions can get along.
Why can’t people of different views on sex and gender.
I, too, feel that gender supremacy swamps my identity as transsexual, even erases it, saying that discussion of my “sex identity” is offensive, my need to be the other physical sex or my needed sexual response as female…is offensive. BUT, I do NOT stand against the basic concepts of transsexualism or transgenderism.
We should not assert “gender identity” or “gender” over “sex identity” or “sex.” That is as cruel as asserting one religion or race over another.
We should reference both in a general statement of intended respect, non-discrimination, or both, depending on the situation or person involved, so that all are included, none favored.